#include<iostream>

#include<string>

using namespace std;

int main()

{

    string s, s0;

    getline(cin, s0);//short

    getline(cin, s);

    for (int i = ; i < s.length(); i++)

        s[i] = tolower(s[i]);

    for (int i = ; i < s0.length(); i++)

        s0[i] = tolower(s0[i]);

    int k1 = s.length();

    int k2 = s0.length();

    s = " " + s + " ";

    s0 = " " + s0 + " ";

    int pos = s.find(s0);

    int cnt = ;

    int k =pos;

    while (k>)

    {

        cnt++;

        k= s.find(s0, ++k);

    }

    if (!cnt)

        cout << - << endl;

    else

        cout << cnt << " " << pos<< endl;

}